Corbyn Allies in Labour Attacked For Supporting Palestinian Struggle

Corbyn Allies in Labour Attacked For Supporting Palestinian Struggle

SHARMINI PERIES: It’s The Real News Network. I’m Sharmini Peries coming to you from Baltimore. A curious thing has been happening to progressive
members of the Labour Party in Britain ever since Jeremy Corbyn was elected head of the
party. The party has been purging members who express
solidarity with the Palestinian struggle for freedom. They are branded an anti-Semite and then kicked
out of the party. In a meeting held by a group of Labour against
the witch hunt are three expelled Jewish members of the party. Members of Momentum, a progressive movement
within the party, came together to discuss how anti-Semitism was used to kick them out
because they were progressive members of the Labour Party. Let’s listen. LABOUR PARTY MEMBER:I was suspended, was it,
22 months ago, March 2016. I was suspended, they said, “For comments
I was alleged to have made.” It was nothing more. That was it. I couldn’t get anything out of them, they
didn’t return my correspondence at all. Two weeks later, April the 2nd, I learned
something about why I was suspended because it appeared via the Daily Telegraph and The
Times. That was how I put together that it was the
anti-Semitism witch hunt. I had dared to say that Israel’s marriage
laws bore comparison with Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany, the Nuremberg Laws, Jews could
not marry non-Jews in Israel. If you’re Jewish you can’t marry a non-Jew. SHARMINI PERIES: On to talk about this with
me is Richard Kuper. He’s a member of the Steering Group for Jewish
Voice for Labour. He is a founding member of Jews for Justice
for Palestine. I thank you so much for joining us today,
Richard. RICHARD KUPER: Thank you. SHARMINI PERIES: Richard, several members
of the Labour Party, who are Jews, have been accused of anti-Semitism and then expelled
from the party. Do you believe that this is to rid the party
of progressives? RICHARD KUPER: Yes. It isn’t only Jews who are being accused of
activities that are held to be undermining the party. We have a byzantine disciplinary process in
which accusations are anonymous, people are not told what they are accused of, and they
find themselves in a state of administrative suspension, sometimes for weeks, sometimes
months, sometimes years. Among the reasons given for these suspensions,
quite often, has been alleged anti-Semitism. SHARMINI PERIES: Now, Jackie Walker was kicked
out of the Labour Party then, I believe, reinstated and then kicked out again. What was the particular reason or rationale
they provided for doing this? RICHARD KUPER: It was alleged anti-Semitism. She wasn’t actually kicked out, she was suspended,
which is a state of animation where you wait, as I said, sometimes for very long periods
before there is any progress in your case. But during that period you are not allowed
to take an active part in party activities. She was originally suspended because of comments
on a Facebook page of hers in private conversation to do with the Atlantic Slave Trade and her
ancestors, who on her mother’s side, were Jewish in the Caribbean. She was reinstated and she was then suspended
again for questions she raised during an anti-Semitism training session at the Labour Party Conference
where people were invited to express their doubts, their queries and their arguments
in that session, supposedly a protected space, supposedly private. She was filmed, a film was released and she
was suspended again. Nothing in what she said, in my view, was
anti-Semitic. SHARMINI PERIES: Now, the Israeli Lobby, if
it is an indication what they manage to achieve here in the United States, has a very powerful
presence also in the UK. Do you see that they are behind some of these
suspensions and reinstatements and having people branded as anti-Semites, which really
hampers their involvement in political activity? RICHARD KUPER: We suspect so. We know there is an Israeli ministry of propaganda,
Hasbara, which spends an inordinate amount of money on defending Israel and on undermining
its critics. We know that many people in the UK work to
trawl through Facebook and Twitter feeds in order to find any possible statements that
might implicate people in some criticism of Israel that might be held to go beyond the
pale. So, we have our suspicions. We also know from the Al Jazeera program on
The Lobby, which was aired last year, that there is some direct involvement, yes. SHARMINI PERIES: All right. So, tell us about some of these very concrete
examples we have for their interference in the political affairs of the UK and Labour
Party in particular. RICHARD KUPER: Well, we only know really what
there was in the Al Jazeera program, The Lobby, where an undercover agent was discovered working
out of the Israeli embassy, meeting with various people in the Labour Party, promising funds
available and so on. I would recommend that people look at that
program. I think it is very telling, and the allegations
made in the program have never been adequately answered. But we also know is that because accusations
are anonymous, we don’t know whether the Israeli Lobby is directly involved in any of the cases
of suspension, because people are not told who has made the accusations. It is as simple as that. It is a snoopers charter, if you like, the
current rules or the way in which the current rules in the Labour Party are applied. And they are simply unacceptable. As Shami Chakrabarti, who was commissioned
by the Labour Party to inquire into anti-Semitism almost two years ago now, made quite clear
in her report, in the Chakrabarti report, and she called for a disciplinary procedure
in which people knew what they were accused of, knew, unless there were good reasons otherwise,
who had accused them, in which they did not learn of their suspension from the Labour
Party by a journalist from the Jewish Chronicle phoning them up and saying, “I hear you’ve
been suspended.” She called for transparent procedures for
natural justice or due process, and she called also for educational rather than disciplinary
approaches to dealing with issues of discipline in the Labour Party, that first of all people
should be spoken to, there should be attempts to inform a resolution of conflicts and so
on, and only if the case is of such seriousness should it proceed to a quasi-judicial inquiry. None of this is what has taken place at the
moment. Perhaps I can illustrate with a good example
from last week. Glyn Secker, who is the Secretary of Jewish
Voice for Labour, received a letter from the Head of Disputes of the Labour Party, out
of the blue, suspending him because there might be some allegations of anti-Semitism
against him. Five days later his suspension is withdrawn. They said they had investigated and now there
was no longer any reason to suspend him. It’s an absurd process. Suspend first and then investigate. He should’ve been told what the accusations
were. He should’ve been pulled for interview if
need be, and only then, if the issue couldn’t be resolved, should there have been any further
proceedings. Now, of course, Glyn Secker is Secretary of
Jewish Voice for Labor, and I don’t think it’s an accident that he was targeted. It is a shot across the bars of all those
in the Labour Party who are fighting for Palestinian rights and who are fighting for the general
kind of orientation that Jeremy Corbyn represents in the new Labour Party. SHARMINI PERIES: Right. Now, Richard, there was also a very high profile
figure, Ken Livingstone, former Mayor of London, who remains suspended, and that remains in
effect, and apparently it was also extended a few days ago. Now, Ken Livingstone, unlike the other three
that were suspended that we know of, or that have a profile: Jackie Walker, Moshe Machover
and Tony Greenstein, he is not a Jew. So, does this mean that he is treated differently
by the right wing members of the Labour Party? RICHARD KUPER: I don’t think so at all. They are really targeting people who they
feel are supportive of the new project of the Labour Party, and anything is grist to
the mill. Ken Livingstone was, in my opinion, rather
foolish in some statements he made a couple of years ago in an interview at the height
of one of the crisis about anti-Semitism in the Labour Party. He said some things about Hitler supporting
Zionism, which I do not think are defendable, although he was alluding to the Haavara Transfer
Agreement between the Zionist Federation in Germany and the German Economics Ministry. And there is an unfortunate history of collaboration
between those in the period, particularly in order to undermine the Jewish boycott of
Nazi Germany which had been enforced since the Nazis came to power earlier in 1933. But the way he presented it was absurd. He was suspended for two years and that ought
to be an end of it. He has now been told that his sentence of
two years suspension will be reviewed and may be extended. I think it’s partly people settling old scores. Ken stood against the Labour Party under Tony
Blair for Mayor of London and defeated the official Labour Party candidate. He had led the Greater London Council in the
1980s, and there were many in the Labour Party who did not like him at all. I think a lot of the issue with Ken is the
settling of old scores. The Jewish Board of Deputies also had scores
to settle from the ’80s when Ken had refused to accept them vetting who grants went to
in the area under the GLC’s control. But the Board of Deputies, believe it or not,
had demanded the right to vet which Jewish groups got money from the GLC and Ken rightly
refused to have anything to do with that demand. So, there are a lot of people who have been
waiting a long time to get him, and this is possibly an opportunity they have. It has very little to do with anti-Semitism
of any kind. It has nothing to do with anti-Semitism of
any kind to be brutal about it. SHARMINI PERIES: Now Richard, let’s talk a
little bit about the accusation of anti-Semitism as a political tool or political weapon. In the repressed Al Jazeera report about the
Israeli Lobby in the US, which was supposed to be a sequel for the documentary that you
were referring to earlier that was aired in the UK, a member of one of the major Israeli
Lobby groups says that anti-Semitism as a smear is not what it used to be. It is still being used with great vigor within
the Labour Party. But what about other parties in the UK? Is it also being equally applied there? RICHARD KUPER: No, not at all. It’s only being used in the Labour Party and,
in my view, it is very much connected to the campaign against Jeremy Corbyn. There are people who are unreconciled to the
fact that he has the support of the mass membership of the party. The majority of MPs, it must be remembered,
were selected before Jeremy became leader, many of them under Tony Blair’s day when candidates
were simply imposed in particular constituencies, and some of them are very resentful of his
being leader. Even more to the point, the machinery of the
party is one that was almost entirely constructed as a top-down machine of control in the Tony
Blair days, and that is virtually unreconstructed. It needs to be changed, and in the meantime,
I think part of what we’re seeing is that machinery which felt it had a right to control
and to dominate the Labour Party reeking vengeance on the new regime. Things are changing, the General Secretary
of the Labour Party has resigned, there is an election in a week or two for a new General
Secretary and we’re all optimistic that there will be some changes coming about. In particular, we look forward to the implementation
of the recommendations of the Chakrabarti report on disciplinary procedures which is
now, I think, 21 months since its recommendations were adopted by the Labour Party and nothing
has been done to implement them. I think we’re going to see rapid change on
that. SHARMINI PERIES: All right, Richard. Finally, what does this mean in terms of Jeremy
Corbyn’s leadership of the Labour Party? RICHARD KUPER: He is a leader of a very divided
party, having many currents within it. And it’s his job as leader to build coalitions,
to take progressive policies forward. He has a long record of being a supporter
of Palestinian rights and I have no doubt that he is still absolutely committed to them. He has been a supporter of human rights and
fights against depression anywhere and everywhere, and has a very long and honorable record. He is known to be an anti-racist. There is no way in which he is anti-Semitic
in the slightest. And indeed, very few people make an accusation
of anti-Semitism against him. They merely say he tolerates the situation…on
the left is allowed to flourish. It’s so much rubbish. People have been suspended for anti-Semitism
almost immediately these accusations have been made. The problem is not that the party hasn’t acted
to suspend them, the problem is that the party hasn’t acted to resolve the issues. Part of this is because what counts as anti-Semitism
is really in question. In the past, we used to know anti-Semitism
was hatred of Jews, discrimination against Jews, because they were Jews, a form of racism. No question about it. Since the early 2000s, there has been an attempt
to redefine anti-Semitism to include certain criticisms of Israel that some people feel
go too far. Now, there is no right not to be offended. Some of these criticisms may indeed be offensive
to some people. They may even be wrong. That isn’t the point. The point is that anti-Semitism towards Israel
would only be there if the criticisms of Israel manifested hatred towards Israel because it
was a Jewish entity, whereas most of the criticism of Israel overwhelmingly, in my experience,
is criticism of Israel because of what it does, because of what it continues to do to
the Palestinians, because of the continuation of its illegal occupation, because of the
housing demolitions, because of its racist discrimination against its own Palestinian
citizens, the Bedouin, in an-Naqab, who’s villages have been erased time after time
after time. This is why people get upset about Israel
and this is what the overwhelming criticism of Israel is about. An entity which seems to be increasingly authoritarian,
increasingly committed to absorbing the whole of the West Bank, increasingly dismissive
of Palestinian rights, increasingly discriminatory internally in terms of what rights it accords
to its Jewish citizens and what rights it accords to the others who are clearly regarded
by the ruling group in Israel as inferior. This is what it is about. Sometimes, some criticisms of Israel may be
exaggerated or may be expressed badly. Very few that I have seen can be regarded
as anti-Semitic in the sense of expressing any hatred towards Jews. And if there are any like that, of course,
they should be dealt with. I don’t think many of them, even the ones
I’ve seen express an ingrained anti-Semitism. They express a criticism of Israel which describes
itself as the Jewish State in which people sometimes are unable to make the distinction
between what Israel does and Jews’ responsibility worldwide for those actions. That requires discussion, education, and so
on. And then, if anyone remains committed to an
anti-Semitic worldview, they should not have a place in the Labour Party. I have no problem with that. But that is not what is going on. Instead, discussion about Israel-Palestine
is becoming harder and harder. People are terrified. People walk on eggshells, scared of getting
it wrong, scared that the wrath of some section of the Israel Lobby will come down upon them
and that they will be criticized, reported anonymously, suspended, whatever. This really has to change. It is quite unacceptable in a democratic party
like the Labour Party. SHARMINI PERIES: Richard, I thank you so much
for joining us. We’ve learnt so much from this discussion. I hope that we could learn more. If the Al Jazeera documentary, the sequel
to the UK one is actually released here, we might be able to have some evidence for those
who are doing similar work as you are in the UK, here in the United States. So, I thank you so much for joining us today. RICHARD KUPER: Thank you very much. SHARMINI PERIES: And thank you for joining
us on The Real News Network.


82 thoughts on “Corbyn Allies in Labour Attacked For Supporting Palestinian Struggle”

  • Here in the US, (never mind trump) the US foreign policy towards the Palestinians and Israelites, is and has been for decades for a two state solution and to stop the settlements by Israel on Palestinians land. I as an American believe, no voice should be louder than the other and monies by any lobbyist should not be accepted or legislation made to quite these voices or favor one over the other.

  • These attack’s on anyone with neutral opinion about Israel is Israel’s or sympathizers attempt to stifle dissent. Typical and at this point people should be able to see right through it. AIPAC should have no jurisdiction over the affairs of the Uk. Furthermore over neutral opinion anywhere in the world when it about Israel.

  • Jelto-Tankred Basel says:

    Nazis and zionist neoisraelites were partners in crime:
    Edwin Black – the ha'avara/transfer agreement.

    The neoisraelites planned the ongoing genocide of the natives of Palestine over a 100 years ago:
    Theodor Herzl – the Jewish state, 1896.

  • Europe Has Had Enough of Israel.
    “Maybe that is because everyone is tired of Israel, a nuclear-armed state that tried to sell nuclear weapons to the former government of South Africa, continues to pretend to be a helpless victim in need of monumental amounts of financial and military assistance. Maybe it is because the reality is that Iran has not launched a war of aggression against another country in over 200 years while Israel cannot seem to go six months without stirring up trouble somewhere”.

    “Maybe it is because behind all of Israel's screaming that Iran is a sponsor of terror we find that it was actually Israel behind the Lavon Affair, Reagan's attack on Libya, the USS Liberty, the USS Cole, 9-11, etc. etc. etc. etc”.

    And maybe it is because we are all sick and tired of constant references to something that may or may not have happened before we were all born as the reason we should all turn a blind eye to Israel's war crimes committed today right before our very eyes.
    It isn't just Europe that is sick and tired of Israel.

  • As Richard Kuper says these charges of anti-semitism are not based in fact, but are used as a political weapon on those that won't follow the party line from the top leadership and their controlling ways on down. This I can easily believe comes from the days of Tony Blair's Labour Party and are upheld by many of today's rigid enemies of a newer more open Jeremy Corbyn party . It's like comparing the resentful, my way or the highway, Clinton Democrats in the U.S. to the Bernie Sanders and Justice Democrats backing free and open progressive change that gives less control to old party leaders such as Schumer and Pelosi.


  • Seán O'Nilbud says:

    Political parties are a layer of feudalistic monarchism smothering and subverting democracy. Especially in the US with the concept of seniority which puts the real power in the hands of the oldest most corrupt, most hidebound, recidivist coffin dodgers.

  • Both the Labour and Tory Party's are owned by the Labour and Conservative friends of Israel and have been for years. Anyone who criticised Israel is attacked as an anti semite which is a total misnomer because semite actually means 'a group of arabic languages'. Besides that fact, if you still go along with the BS connection between the word semite and Jew, not all Israeli's are Jews

    Why do most Jews think there should be a special word for discrimination against Jews, but just one word 'racism' for discrimination against anyone else? It must be because Jews see themselves as somehow so special they need a standalone word to describe discrimination against them as a race? Which they are not, Judaism is a religion followed by different races, Israel is a country made up of different races, of which some seem to be more equal than others

    I am not against or for any race or religion, but it is a fact, like your guest, most Jews go along with this anti semite nonsense by just trying to define what it is! It's nothing it does not exist, it's made up by snowflakes who realised a long long time ago the advantages of adopting a all-round 'victim' status for anyone who identified as a Jew. This is not to say Jews as a group have not been persecuted they so clearly have, but so have many other groups, but they don't have their own special word do they?

    Jeremy Corbyn is a total fraud as demonstrated by the way he has thrown his friend Ken Livingstone under the bus for telling the truth about the transfer agreement. The way the Labour party cow-tail every time the Israel lobby even look in their direction is absolutely pathetic. We know already that the messiah Corbyn hasn't got the balls to tell them to fuck off because he's either in bed with them which I doubt, or they've got him by the bollox and that's why he's shot to the front of the queue.

    Who predicted the rise of Corbyn? Not Corbyn that's for sure, he thought he was safe shouting all the right stuff from the benches. But as soon as he's given the lead role Jezza has shit his pants and like nearly every cabinet or shadow politician he'll do as he's told, or suffer the consequences. I bet the 'messiah' has got some very ugly skeletons in his closet, and I bet the labour friends of Israel know exactly what they are!

    'Progressives', don't make me laugh, what's a progressive? Some one who gets dumber or more dumbed down as the weeks go by. Only fools pick a side or join a movement, voting in our charade elections is a complete and utter waste of time. The only real positive change will come when we disengage with the current system. That leaves us enslaved to the dollar, fractional reserve counterfeiting, and the crooks and criminals that own the central banking system, nearly every country in the world has been tricked or forced into complying with, by pro Zionist investment bankers.

  • arthur granopoulos says:

    I think that the only thing that should should be called anti-Semitic is a call for valance against the Jewish people or the Jewish state and not for someone stetting there opinion it takes away any of the of the meaning team

  • Do the people who abuse antisemitism to silence critics not realized that a similar argument can be used against them?

    All it takes is to say that they're against brown people in the middle east.

  • This behavior is fueling anti-semitism, all of a sudden a lot of the nazi propaganda seems more believable. Jews control the banks, control politics and so on. Hunting down people for fake anti-semitism only hurts jews in the long run. To critiqe Israeli politics is NOT anti-semitism!

  • You see sirs, the main theme of our study is "the man Yeshua HaMashiach, otherwise known as Christ Jesus The Lord." There are multitudes of heresys on both sides the aisle. What about your sin? Antisemitism is NOT in the bible but pharisees/Kabbalists enemies of all truth ARE.

  • i cant wait till jesus comes back, i am sure the first thing he is going to do is deal with the evil government of israel

  • Sigh!!! Do you not see the hypocrisy of saying Israel is wrong, but don't blame all Jews for what the radical Jews there do (killing innocent Palestinians, stirring up hatred of Iran, Syria, Lebanon, etc….) and then saying that all moderate Muslims should be condemned for not speaking out against radical Islam, all Germans should be punished and spat on because of WWII, and other such drivel? I rarely hear a Jew condemning the radical elements in his/her own community. No, more often than not, they tend to support Israel in the face of criticism. A different measure is applied to them, because they are Jewish. Not even the VERY FEW Jews who condemn Israel's actions in Palestine will concede that they are invaders in someone else's land, that it is them who are stoking anti-Islamic, and anti-German hatred everywhere (and have been for the last 70 years). So now I say to you: If the vast majority of Jews don't support the actions of their fellows, then they had better start speaking up and condemning those actions loudly and publicly. To remain silent is to be in agreement by their own definition, and that same definition should be applied to themselves. Therefore anyone who condemns them as an entire group has nothing to apologize for; that person is only doing what they themselves do. And if it is okay for them to do it, then it has to also be okay for others to do it to them.

  • If you believe that Palestinians should be breathing, you are anti-Semitic. If you have a problem with the influence of the Israel lobby over your government, you are anti-Semitic. If you aren't 100% pro Israel, you are anti-Semitic. The Truth is Antisemitic.

  • If you have a problem with laws being passed in your country, that can fine you and even put you in prison for Criticizing Israel, you are anti-Semitic.

  • Don't think Israel should pick and choose your political candidates based on their support for Israel? You are anti-Semitic.

  • When you call someone a anti semite only because they disagree with the politics of Zionism it really cheapens the word and title. It gives the real anti semites room to hide.

  • ALX Armed Liberation Xecutive says:

    ©™ ALX ⚖ Armed ? Liberation ⛓ Xecutive ? Observations ✍✍

    Corbyn and Labor on the right side of history ?
    ISRAEL democracy or theocracy?
    Occupiers of Palestine! (No question about that)


  • it will always unfortunately be the case that when those in politics come too close to speaking the uncomfortable truth – they will find themselves terminated..

  • anahwill forage says:

    Using the same old tack…anti-semitism. Great britain, us, and israel, the true axis of evil, must be brought to heel by the rest of the world. It's the only chance for peace.

  • I am a Labour member, I adore Jewish people, their sense of humour is legendary. But I make comment about the government of Israel which I dislike, always making clear that it is the GOVERNMENT and its policies I dislike, not a people under a government, and two dozen trolls with an Israeli flag jump on my profile and start screaming antisemitism.

    Mercifully this is wearing thin today. The Zionist movement is the reason why. Zionism should not been seen as some cloak and dagger menace but as a hard right political movement, like any other in that respect. Only this one is in charges of one of the worlds most powerful military forces and nuclear weapons.

    Zionism for 70 years, has done its best to link antisemitism with criticism of the government of Israel. This is no longer as effective.

  • what about Grunings letter to Churchill showing Gmnys 2 leading Zionists funded NSDAP in 1928 when they were broke?

  • The sooner people of conscience come to the explicit realization that the Israeli lobby is a detriment to foreign policy, whether in the US, the UK and anywhere else, the sooner cooler heads will prevail.

  • Ma'Halious Walker says:

    As much as I like Jeremy Corbyn. He needs to grow another pair of balls and stand up to these Zionist hooligan lobby terrorist groups. Reinstate Ken Livingstone!!!

  • Corbyn needs to cleanse his party of the Israel lobby fifth column that continues to try to undermine him at every step. All Labor members with any connection to the Israel lobby have to be dismissed from the party, if Corbyn ever hopes to enter Downing 10. It's time for labor to affirm in the most direct way possible its unequivocal support for Palestinians!!!

  • Guapo Desperado says:

    People for justice in Palestine are apparently the only sane, intelligent, and moral people in existence. I don't mean only those strictly belonging to the Jews for Justice in Palestine group, but just any person at all, Jewish or otherwise.

    Anyone that doesn't realize and face the fact that the isreali government and state is deeply guilty of crimes against humanity as well as international war crimes, is either crazy, ignorant, or immoral.

  • Guapo Desperado says:

    This sounds just like the clintonite neoliberal top down control of the democratic party in the US, trying to stomp out any progressive candidates and movements.
    This BS neoliberal cancer has to be surgically removed from all labor/working class parties the world over.

  • Labour was created for the working class people of the uk. This has not been the case for some time now, Blair is a prime example of this but under Corbyn during the chaos of the clash between Corbynites and Blairites a group called Momentum sprung up, supposedly a grass roots movement, this could not be further from the truth. Momentum was created by Zionists and a fierce campaign of harassment and intimidation has destroyed the party and is now practically a radical far left Zionist controlled embarrassment to our country.

  • Head Nicka In Charge says:

    Any Jew who believes Palestinans have human rights too is the wrong sort of Jew for the Israel lobby. Democracy is dead.

  • When are politicians on ALL sides going to stop taking lobbying money from these people, it’s despicable both in the U.K. and in the US. ISRAEL dual nationals own American politicians and it looks like it’s the same in the U.K. These people dictate a,l foreign policy, why do you think the wars in the Middle East are happening……..for Israel of course.

  • People see the truth of the corruptions and fight for back for once but only to lose, get depressed and give up. This has been happening since around 1999 (NAFTA) and brainwash zombies just increase in numbers.

  • Dulce periculum says:

    'Israel' is a racist apartheid state and Zionism is akin to Nazism. 'Israel' will be defeated just how Nazi Germany was defeated and wiped from history altogether.

  • Seems to me it would be good to be labelled an anti-Semite since Israel has become the new apartheid in the world.

  • You are not supposed to know why you are suspended and not supposed to know who is making the accusation? Sounds a lot like the Patriot Act. How and why people put up with this BS is beyond me!

  • Middle East TRUTH says:

    There has never been such a country called Palestine. Israel was re-formed on land previously ruled by the Ottoman empire, similarly to other countries in the region such as Lebanon, Iraq and others. There is no such thing as "Palestinian people". It's worth noting that newspapers such as the 'Palestine post' were Jewish newspapers (this one for example turned into the 'Jerusalem post'). This is also true about other official "Palestine" related stuff from the time before Israel was re-formed. Hebrews were the majority in Jerusalem even before the birth of the Zionist movement in the 19th century. If someone happened to use the term "Palestine" before the re-formation of Israel, he was referring to the homeland of the Jevvs (the land of Israel) – not the Arabs. The flag of the "Palestinian Authority" is the flag of Hejaz.

    The British Mandate over the land, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, actually included also what is now Jordan (which includes the "east bank" – part of historic Israel), and according to the League of Nations (precursor of the UN), this Mandate was to become a national homeland for the Jevvs (the Arabs would get their own independent lands in all the rest of the greater middle-east, an area which makes the land of Israel insignificant in comparison). Note that according to the UN's constitution, all the past resolutions of the League of Nation are valid.
    The British Authorities, due to their own interests with the Arabs (among others – future oil dealings), gave them 77% of the land – which later became what is now Jordan. There are over 20 Arab countries, and almost 60 lsIamic countries – each on average way bigger than Israel, but the Arabs couldn't tolerate the existence of tiny Israel, even after being given most of the land of the mandate. Instead, they tried to annihilate it by force with the Arab armies the moment it was officially independent (and have attempted to do so several times again since then).

    The coIoniaI term "Palestine" was discarded after it was brought to life under the British rule, as it should have been, because the original name for the land – Israel, has been restored (Israel is not Palestine, just like Jerusalem is not Aelia-Capitolina, and Schehem is not Nablus).
    It is only in the mid 1960's that the Arabs hijacked the term, and its widespread usage only took off after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. the Arabs used this terminology as a political propaganda tool to de-legitimize Israel, after they failed to steal the Hebrew homeland by force with the Arab armies, by invading and attempting to conquer the land. Ironically, the term "Palestinian" originate from the term 'Pleshet' to describe INVADERS by the Hebrews. Those who willingly identify as "Palestinians" are declaring themselves to be invaders/colonizers in Hebrew land.
    It's important to note that this propaganda tool was supported by the Communists/Soviets. On the other hand, just a few decades before that, the Arab "Palestinians" were hand in hand with the Nazis. They have aided them under the leadership of the mufti Amin Al-Husseini – who is often regarded as the 'founding father' of the Arab "Palestinians". During WW2 he became an SS general, but he had anti-Jewish genocidal ideology long before the Nazis rose the power. He has incited and caused violence and terror against the Jewish people in their homeland since the early 1920's (for example: 1929 Hebron massacre).

    Arab "Palestinians" are nothing more than bands of foreign invaders and illegal immigrants from all over the Arab and Islamic world (some of them even originating from places that are not part of the middle-east, such as Bosnia) and a few other places. The Vast majority of them first settled in the land of Israel in recent centuries – mostly in the 19th and 20th centuries. Some of them even came to Gaza, Judea and Samaria from Egypt and Jordan while these areas were under Egyptian and Jordanian occupation on the periods between 1948 to 1967.

    Informative quotes from Arab "Palestinian" leaders:
    "There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the bible …Palestine is ALIEN to us" – Arab "Palestinian" leader Awni Abdul Hadi, Peel Commission, 1937.

    "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity… Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." – Arab "Palestinian" leader & PLO member Zuheir Mohsen, 1977.

    "I don’t think there is 'Palestinian People', I don’t think there is a 'Palestinian Nation' at all… 'Palestinian Nation'? I think that is a colonial invention. When were there ever 'Palestinians'?" – Arab "Palestinian" leader Azme Bishara, TV Interview.

    "We all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots – whether from Saudi Arabia, Yemen or anywhere else." "… Half the Palestinians are (Arab) Egyptians and the other half are (Arab) Saudis" – Arab "Palestinian" Hamas minister Fathi Hammad, 2012.

    Here are some common "Palestinian" families and their origin:
    Masri, Masrawa, Tartir, Bardawil, Fayumi – Egypt
    Abu Kishk, Shakirat, Zabidat, Aramsha, Abu Sitta, Abu Sutta, Shaalan – Egypt (Bedouins)
    Saudi, Al-Husseini, Al-Hassan, Hussein, Hassan, Hijazi, Tamimi, Erekat, Barghouti, Qureshi – Saudi Arabia
    Yamani, Azad – Yemen
    Haddadins – Yemen (Ghassanids)
    Turki, Sultan, Uthuman – Turkey
    Iraqi, Baghdadi, Faruqi, Tachriti, Zoabi, Abbas – Iraq
    Nashashibi, Hurani, Allawi, Halabi – Syria
    Lubnani, Tarabulsi, Sidawi, Surani – Lebanon
    Bushnak – Bosnia
    Khamis – Bahrain
    Afghani – Afghanistan
    Mughrabi – Maghreb
    Araj – Morocco
    Djazair – Algeria
    Kurd – Kurdistan
    Hindi – India
    Abid – Sudan

    Yasser Arafat, the most famous "Palestinian" and leader of the PLO terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat Al-Qudwa Al-Husseini.

    Yasser Arafat also proudly stated in his authorized biography that: "If there is any such thing as a Palestinian people, it is I, Yasser Arafat, who created them."

    Genetic data for "Palestinians":
    According to a 2010 study by Behar et al. titled "The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people", Palestinians tested clustered genetically close to Bedouins, Jordanians and Saudi Arabians which was described as "consistent with a common origin in the Arabian Peninsula".
    A study found that the Palestinians, have what appears to be Female-Mediated gene flow in the form of Maternal DNA Haplogroups from Sub-Saharan Africa. Palestinian individuals tested, carried maternal haplogroups that originated in Sub-Saharan Africa. The most likely explanation for the presence of predominantly female lineages of African origin in these areas is that they may trace back to women brought from Africa as part of the Arab slave trade, assimilated into the areas under Arab rule.
    In a genetic study of Y-chromosomal STRs in two populations from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area: Christian and Muslim Palestinians showed genetic differences.
    A 2013 study of Haber and et al. found that "The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen."
    The authors explained that "religious affiliation had a strong impact on the genomes of the Levantines. In particular, conversion of the region's populations to Islam appears to have introduced major rearrangements in populations' relations through admixture with culturally similar but geographically remote populations leading to genetic similarities between remarkably distant populations."

    Even the Quran:
    And thereafter We (Allah) said to the Children of Israel: "Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd" [17 : 104]
    O my people (Jevvs)! Enter the Holy Land, which God has assigned unto you [5 : 21]
    We (Allah) settled the Israelites in a blessed land and provided them with good things [10 : 93]
    It was our (Allah's) will to favor those who were oppressed (Jevvs) and to make them leaders of man, to bestow on them a noble heritage and to give them power in the land (of Israel) [28 : 5-6]
    We (Allah) gave the persecuted people (Jevvs) dominion over the eastern and western lands which We had blessed (the east and west banks of the Jordan River). Thus your Lord's gracious word was fulfilled for the Israelites, because they had endured with fortitude [7 : 137]


  • I've never met an anti semite in my life at the same time I have never met anyone who supports israeli policy towards Palestinians or indeed muslims in general.

  • The authentic semites are the arabs and palestinians are the authentic ancient hebrew descents. The authentic anti-semites are the israelis.

  • MrMassivefavour says:

    Antisemitic behaviour and language is disgusting. Unfortunately for Israel they have abused the term as a means to and end and it has now become the ultimate Get Out Of Jail Free Card. The Zionist lobby obviously hadn't read 'The Boy That Cried Wolf'

  • Veronica Read 112 says:

    The Labour Party, after being taken over by right-wing Blairites, finally started to turn back to its roots in class politics, when up pops the zionist movement to to use anti-semitism as the latest weapon to break re-emergent socialism. There is no room for "identity politics' in socialism. Kick out the CRYBULLY Zionists. We stand together as equals and "exceptionalism" is poison to the labour movement..

  • I'm sorry but all ashkenazi's even the Jews for palestine cannot accept the facts that zionists are exactly like thier Nazi brethrens. IDF are infinitely worse than the Nazi's and don't talk to me about the concentration camps and number of deaths when it's the only historical event protected by law i.e a cover-up.
    If you're a 'jew' you're going to have to accept the close relationship between Zionists and Nazi's, one day it will be on day and night time television and even in our school curriculum , the truth will out.

  • For anyone interested in the subject, the documentary referred to here, 'The Lobby' is required viewing. Available on You Tube

  • Greatbritishpatriot Greatbritishpatriot says:

    Ah the Labour Party are no longer for the British and they are no longer patriotic to Great Britain which is a shame.
    Labour have totally lost the plot it seems.

  • Omg … British gov and rolays seems to be puppets of Sionists, calling a Jew anti semitism is ridiculously insane

  • sidfor911truth says:

    Because we don’t support apartheid in Israel doesn’t not brand us anti-Semite. Sorry, but I don’t support fully armed men abusing and murdering children. Btw, just because two elite British people meet in England and decide that they are going to form a nation on your land (Balfour declaration) doesn’t make what they did legal.

  • Israel constantly harps on about antisemitism but by definition they themselves are antisemitic with their treatment of Palestinians which is frankly disgusting and bordering on Nazism as is the support of western governments who support this violent and aggressive regime while demonising Islamic states and leaders for doing far less.
    a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.

  • كاشف الحركة والشياتين المجاهد says:

    The only way to show that you not antisemite is to kill a Palestinian and take his house

  • what is going on now is simply a witch hunt and smear campaign against Corbyn by influential Zionist Jews holding too much power… filthy bastards

  • Stuart Crossland says:

    The problem is a huge one, over 70% of ALL our politicians from all parties belong to the lobby group" Friends of Israel" Does any other country have this amount of control over our so called democracy.?

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